Well, what do you have to say about THIS??

[RWTFCEC]

http://www.myfoxkc.com/myfox/pages/News ... geId=3.2.1

THIS is what I was talking about all those months ago; and was told by some here that I was ranting and crazy. What do you have to say now, supporters of the Independence Police Department? How would you feel if this were YOUR child? And by the way, Christopher is my son.

[Mad Max]

IPD was chasing that dirtbag because he rammed an innocent person which constitutes an aggravated assault. They should have chased him. But what happened back at the scene with your son was totally wrong. The comment was totally uncalled for and the "care" by AMR personnel is indicative of a company that has lowered their standards to fill positions.

By the way, IPD wants a tax increase to hire more police. I'm sure they will use the money for the intended purposes just like the tax increase in effect to have officers have "take home cars". Oh wait. They don't allow that anymore....they just tax me to use the money for other things and lie to the citizens about have a couple of cars marked with "Living and Serving In". I hope the new chief will change the corruption of the department.

[mamafairall]

It is very sad to hear that comment and i do believe "some" officers just dont care about their job....even when performing it.

Im sorry for what happened to your son , it was terrible and no one should face losing a child...just out for a bike ride.

Although no amount of money or justice can bring Chris back to you...i do hope it changes policies in the PD...and AMR.

[Joe]

I guess I will post this as an open letter to all, but it is the response I sent via private
message in regards to this post.
I have edited out parts of my reply for privacy reasons:

___________________ nobody knew what happened that night. I can
only publish here what's broadcast over the scanner. ____________________________
_______________________________________________________. Unfortunatly, doing
this as a hobby with $0 support from members of the site, and no sponsorship and
advertising won't allow it. Unless someone like you comes forward with information, nobody
knows until it's breaking news and official from a news source. I'm sure you understand a
lot of the negativity from the members of this forum had no solid information to make them
say nice things after you first posted. You see many forums where someone signs up and has a
total post count of 1 and they start saying things that you just cannot verify.

_________________________________________________________________________________
__________. You have to stop and realize that.. let's say... (a scenerio)... What if this guy went
into a bank and was robbing it with a gun and IPD pulls up and witnesses this through the windows.
Let's say the perp then flees out of the bank on foot and the officer gets out of his car and runs
after him. The perp turns around and fires a shot at the officer who just commited a crime and a
bullet strikes an innocent victim? Do we get to the point in society where law enforcement cannot
pursue a criminal? What the robber was wearing a ski mask and gloves not fingerprints behind and
wouldn't get caught? Bad guys run from the police in stolen vehicles each day. The agencies with
strong pursuit policies have no way to track down these criminals when they stop pursuing them
since the vehicles are stolen and the license plates only lead back to the victims address.

_____________________________________________________________________________
_____________________________________________________________________________
__________________________________________________ Had this perp not ran from the
police in the first place, nothing would have even occured.

[NBW791]

http://www.myfoxkc.com/myfox/pages/News/Detail?contentId=8087962&version=2&locale=EN-US&layoutCode=VSTY&pageId=3.2.1

THIS is what I was talking about all those months ago; and was told by some here that I was ranting and crazy. What do you have to say now, supporters of the Independence Police Department? How would you feel if this were YOUR child? And by the way, Christopher is my son.

First and foremost, I am sorry for the loss of your child. I can't imagine what that must feel like and I hope I never have to go through it.

Second, we still must blame the person who ran from the police - Pujols. HE is the one who made the decision to run. The police have a job to do and it's a difficult one. They have to make split second decisions that will be "Monday Morning Quarterbacked" for probably years to come in lawsuits, etc.

Third, this video is only a snip-it that shows TWO quotes. TWO quotes. That's it. Where is the whole video? You can make anybody say anything with two quotes only. The media only shows what they want the people to see, just like in the Rodney King case in LA as we are probably all too famiiliar with. That video showed about 10 seconds of a 45 minute video. I choose not to make a decision in this case until I have all the facts, and that would include the full length video.

Fourth, in public safety, law enforcement, firefighters and EMS workers deal with horrible things. To cope with those things, they often turn to humor to lighten the mood and ease the pain. They see things that humans just shouldn't have to see. Have you ever seen a human being gutted like a canoe? Have you ever walked through brain matter and body parts on the roadway? Have you ever knocked on somebody's door in the middle of the night to tell them their loved one is dead? Well, I have. It's not fun. And sometimes to deal with those things we have to cope in ways that are strange and seem heartless to the general public. These people are not heartless or they wouldn't do the job they do. It's unfortunate that sometimes an officer's remarks are recorded for the whole world to hear, when ultimately they should have been kept inside or only spoke in the locker room for example.

Fifth, that attorney said Christopher died not as a result of the crash but as a result of bleeding out. Is there an autopsy that shows that? Do we REALLY know for sure that was the cause of death? I don't mean to be cold but I'm the type of person that operates on facts, not some attorney's opinion.

Again, I want to express my sympathy for the loss of your child and I hope you can find some closure in this situation, although that will probably take a long time.

Back to my two quotes theory, select two quotes from my above post and you'll see how you could make anybody say anything with limited information.

"I am sorry for the loss of your child. HE is the one who made the decision to run."

See what I mean? Two quotes and it completely changes everything.

[RWTFCEC]

The person who hit Christopher is named in the suit, right along with everyone else who contributed to Christopher's murder.
Has your child ever laid in the street bleeding while the very people who are supposed to render aid called them "a roach that won't die"? Well, mine has.
Tape is longer, more later. You will just have to wait to hear the rest. It was released in the sequence in which it happened, no editing, other than that which was done before it was received.
I'll say this for sure-I knew this behavior would be condoned here. Of course the officers will be defended, and excuses made for their reprehensible conduct. I knew you wouldn't let me down on that aspect.
This will be my very last comment on this matter. The tape speaks for itself, and I will have nothing further to add. I don't have to say anything else. Those six words, spoken by someone who swore to protect and defend, say all that needs to be said. And I will one day have justice for my Christopher. It's all that's left for me to do for him.

[NBW791]

This will be my very last comment on this matter.

In case you do come back to read it, again, I'm sorry your child died and nothing can be said or done to ease your pain, especially from somebody who you don't even know.

I don't think the INTENT of the officers on the tape were to let your son die or make offensive statements. What was said was said. It was offensive to many but suing the pants off the City won't fix that. To each his own, but I'm not a lawsuit type of person.

Furthermore, I don't feel that suing a FIRST RESPONDER (e.g. - a police officer only trained in basic first aid [CPR and bandaging basically] who only has limited equipment [rubber gloves and a CPR mask], which from the sounds of the video they were trying to provide) will do any good. I don't know the full scenario (again, I haven't seen the whole video), but if a PARAMEDIC, who is trained in much higher levels of care and has the EQUIPMENT to provide life support (oxygen, airways, med box, etc.) was standing over someone who was dying, I believe that would be arugable nonfeasance.

For the record:

Main Entry: non·fea·sance
Pronunciation: \ˈnän-ˈfē-zən(t)s\
Function: noun
Etymology: non- + obsolete English feasance doing, execution
Date: 1596
: failure to act ; especially : failure to do what ought to be done

That is, being trained to do something and not doing it, versus malfeasance, which is doing something but doing it wrong.

[mamafairall]

i see Pujol saw sentenced to 15 yrs...good to see he was held accountable